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you would prefer google. make the case, sir. >> well, i think that apple is a company that goes through plod cycles and so, therefore, you've got lumpiness and risk there with each product cycle. as you have other hardware manufacturers like google and like amazon come in and they have other businesses that they could use to fund their kind of break-even foray into hardware, it is going to become more about the software. clearly apple has a formidable platform in itunes but we think longer term google is the winner in terms of its android os, powering cream which we think is the best browser, gmail, the core search product. youtube. this is google's goal, to tie a lasso around its ecosystem of advertising supported products. those revenues for me as an analyst are more predictable and also higher margin. i'd prefer to buy google ten times out of ten. >> microsoft's sitting in the corner right now feeling really lonely and left out. why not microsoft? >> i think longer term, microsoft, windows and win 8 have r
you would prefer google. make the case, sir. >> well, i think that apple is a company that goes through plod cycles and so, therefore, you've got lumpiness and risk there with each product cycle. as you have other hardware manufacturers like google and like amazon come in and they have other businesses that they could use to fund their kind of break-even foray into hardware, it is going to become more about the software. clearly apple has a formidable platform in itunes but we think...
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there's positive things being said about microsoft and google. when you look at alternative operating systems, whether it's microsoft and their own hardware, this to me is the issue and has always been their issue, they're not going to be able to stave off hardware which becomes indistinguishable. and when you get to places where margins are cut razor thin and will do it better than apple, they can do it cheaper. this is the fundamental issue, it's not a technical issue. >> i would disagree on a microsoft side. microsoft reported their original os 8 numbers. they didn't give any of the surface numbers there. i think you're exactly right in terms of android. especially in an emerging market, that's becoming a bigger deal. keep in mind it's getting to some of these numbers for next year, it doesn't require the big apple growth that they've had. in other words, if they can just gain a fractional share and get to where they want to go. let android have a lot of the emerging markets and apple can beat the street numbers for 2013. >> gene, brian kelly.
there's positive things being said about microsoft and google. when you look at alternative operating systems, whether it's microsoft and their own hardware, this to me is the issue and has always been their issue, they're not going to be able to stave off hardware which becomes indistinguishable. and when you get to places where margins are cut razor thin and will do it better than apple, they can do it cheaper. this is the fundamental issue, it's not a technical issue. >> i would...
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what's the trade on google, pete? >> i like google, but i still think when you look at yahoo!, one of this things we talked about recently is, how yahoo! is actually starting to steal back some of that search. who are they stealing it from? they are taking some of it from google. i like this yahoo! story right now. i think you have more upside. >> amen. >> all right. >> we talk about it for awhile now. >> we have. we have. >> jane? >> all right, finally, this john mcafee story is right out of hollywood. we need to start casting the movie. one likely candidate is vladic sheybal who played dr. boogalow. but i found the late, great roy shader, seen as bob fossey in "all that jazz." unfortunately, they are both dead. so, casting remains open. i see on the set one person with facial hair and i think -- if pete had a really, really, really hard weekend, monday morning, he could play john mcafee. >> i had a rough one this weekend, as a matter of fact. boy, that was tough. >> little extra time with tequila mocking bird. >> meggings were too tight? >> no meggings here. >> have you hear
what's the trade on google, pete? >> i like google, but i still think when you look at yahoo!, one of this things we talked about recently is, how yahoo! is actually starting to steal back some of that search. who are they stealing it from? they are taking some of it from google. i like this yahoo! story right now. i think you have more upside. >> amen. >> all right. >> we talk about it for awhile now. >> we have. we have. >> jane? >> all right,...
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it is not going to drive google's earnings, if you -- display ad does drive google's earnings but nothing to do with display ads, sit there and think maybe am, people will buy it, maybe not, but the idea that google is up big and apple is down big just shows you how fanciful this market can be versus the reality. makes no sense. >> google could drive a lot bigger margin if they wanted to, fascinating company, i agree. >> all the thing these give away for free they could possibly monetize u >> kansas city, delivering one gigabyte for $30 a month. so interesting to follow this company, generating enormous amounts of cash flow. >> trade off of that. invest in it, they are investing so much in the future. the idea of a superior map product driving google over 700, starting to climb back where it was after that horribly disappointing quarter? i got facebook at 20. i get that. facebook said we got a way to monetize, but the idea, wow, you know what, those maps, which we know are superior, we should buy google off it? >> maybe just the people are taking money out of apple and putting it elsewher
it is not going to drive google's earnings, if you -- display ad does drive google's earnings but nothing to do with display ads, sit there and think maybe am, people will buy it, maybe not, but the idea that google is up big and apple is down big just shows you how fanciful this market can be versus the reality. makes no sense. >> google could drive a lot bigger margin if they wanted to, fascinating company, i agree. >> all the thing these give away for free they could possibly...
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this has been disrupted by new players like square and paypal and google. the stock has been hit, but our fund manager we talked to think it's been unfairly hit. any time an industry is being disrupted, that's a good opportunity. >> u.s. bancorp? >> this is an old fashioned bank. focuses on deposits and loans and wealth management. none of the other stuff that can get you into trouble. this is one our clients really liked. >> this year dividend plays have been huge. everyone is looking for income. they look to these companies that have a good yield. the two that came through here were ford and, as it happens, our majority owner comcast. >> yes. so ford, you know, the auto recovery story is pretty significant. it's still happening. cars on the road are older. the replacement rate is going to go up. with ford, it has a rock-solid balance sheet. its dividend yield, we think, could go up. comcast is interesting. not because it's the boss' of "closing bell," it has a new revenue stream in nbc universal, which is up 32% in the third quarter because of the olympic
this has been disrupted by new players like square and paypal and google. the stock has been hit, but our fund manager we talked to think it's been unfairly hit. any time an industry is being disrupted, that's a good opportunity. >> u.s. bancorp? >> this is an old fashioned bank. focuses on deposits and loans and wealth management. none of the other stuff that can get you into trouble. this is one our clients really liked. >> this year dividend plays have been huge. everyone...
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apple's losing share to google, it doesn't have the right phones in europe, nokia's making a comeback, the mini isn't selling, there's no special dividend, we've got a stock chart that is the -- >> sell, sell, sell, sell! >> excuse me for a moment while i get nauseated. apple went down today because it's a big dollar amount stock and makes a ton of economic sense to ring the register before year-end. why do i always say about apple? own it. shocker. how about citigroup? this company's crushed shareholders for many, many years, but this new management team, you've got to hand it to them for taking tough medicine right before the holidays, firing 11,000 people, shutting down underperforming operations around the globe. no, i don't want to work there, and i feel terrible at the layoffs. i've got a ton of friends over citi, but i would be happy if i was a shareholder. something we're asking of our politicians, they can't do that. but citigroup's management was willing to take the hard medicine for the shareholders. we hear endless negativity about china and europe, but the chinese market
apple's losing share to google, it doesn't have the right phones in europe, nokia's making a comeback, the mini isn't selling, there's no special dividend, we've got a stock chart that is the -- >> sell, sell, sell, sell! >> excuse me for a moment while i get nauseated. apple went down today because it's a big dollar amount stock and makes a ton of economic sense to ring the register before year-end. why do i always say about apple? own it. shocker. how about citigroup? this...
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and decided online education is next and google didn't want to do it and we're backing him and it will be fun to see. >> marc andreessen, thank you for being here. send it back to the studios. >> this is embarrassing. she is like throwing herself at the camera. i've never seen this side of you. >> there's so few voices willing to say what he said out loud. >> andrew, we asked him to guest host. he can talk the disrupter stuff and politics. >> he's the ultimate disrupter. >> another guy came out. will you do that? >> marc? >> we will have him come out. he's on his way back. >> becky will be back by then so you don't have to worry about me. >> right. exactly. got it. >> she'll leave the ring. >> need some muscle to keep you away. >>> the weird thing with twitter you have only tweeted in your career 709 times. >> you're tracking me? >> no, i just looked. i don't know why they picked me. they must like the silent. i guess less is more because we're not big tweeters, the two of us. >> hold on. while we are on this topic and before he goes, marc andreessen not only has an investment but has
and decided online education is next and google didn't want to do it and we're backing him and it will be fun to see. >> marc andreessen, thank you for being here. send it back to the studios. >> this is embarrassing. she is like throwing herself at the camera. i've never seen this side of you. >> there's so few voices willing to say what he said out loud. >> andrew, we asked him to guest host. he can talk the disrupter stuff and politics. >> he's the ultimate...